Saturday 28 February 2015

Fighting money

I tried to update the Abbott wiki and ran into the $4.3 million worth of tax payer funds he is spending to monitor and control social media. I wanted to link to the Jan Olspn FOI and mention the internet controversy.  Edit warring happened.  I posted and then an Abbotista deleted,I posted, they deleted I posted and then got suspended because I had done things three times.  The Wiki system is set up to keep the status quo, no changes can be made if those with money want to make sure no changes can be made.

If there is anyone with Wiki expertise can you help?
All I want in the wiki is the middle bit of this included:-






If you can include that for me, much appreciated.

On another matter Ms Plibersek replied to an email asking why it was only the women in the labour party who dared to think outside the protect the boys club.

Her response is


Dear Tony

Thanks for your message.

Tony Abbott was democratically elected and the only way to get rid of him is at the ballot box.

I take the Prime Minister at his word that he renounced his citizenship. Even if he hadn't, he would be able to stand for his seat again in a by-election.

The ALP is focussed on winning the battle for ideas and showing Australians an alternative vision for our country.

Best wishes
Tanya

SO that's the problem we have.
Until the AFP come online and check what has been sent to them,until the Commissioner of the AFP realises the law is more important than the Homeland Security gig promised to him we have to keep perstering MPs.




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Thursday 19 February 2015

Dear Mr Briggs

I am writing to ask Mr Briggs to question the PM either in the party room or in parliament about his renunciation of British citizenship.

Ms Butler wrote on my behalf 4 weeks ago and still no reply.  http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/a-reply-from-hon-terri-butler-mp.html

I rang his office last Friday and got this http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/a-phone-call-to-pms-office.html reported in Independent Australia as https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbotts-dual-citizenship-stop-asking-questions--hes-the-pm,7382

It is very unusual that someone would try to hide their renunciation of British citizenship, especially when proclaiming he leads team Australia.

You are well aware Mr Abbott was born in England to a British father, that's automatic British citizenship, got Australian citizenship in 1981 to get the Rhodes dollars and then joined parliament in 1994.

In October 2014 his Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet advised that the renunciation papers for his British citizenship do not exist.  That FOI/2014/159 is here -  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B42C_wWg31otWnE4Z0dtVEZpYzA/view

Mr Abbott has a family fairy story where he got Australian citizenship by descent.  Trouble is Mum renounced her Australian citizenship to get the ten pound pom boat trip (or was she an illegal boat person roflmao)

He applied for Australian citizenship in the normal way, which is now a secret file in the National Archives of Australia. Citizenship normally or by descent doesn't trump the British citizenship, he needs to fill in a form and pay a fee in London which hasn't happened.  That document does not exist so he is illegal

Will you please ask and more importantly let the Australian public know.

The right wing media are calling birther, but a birther was a Tea Party racist in the USA who couldn't believe Mr Obama had a legitimate birth certificate.  We know he was born British,we know he got Australian in 1981 whats missing is the renunciation.

I do hope you can help

thanks

tony magrathea


This letter was sent to the Australian Parliament House email system so that there is little chance of it going missing.







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Wednesday 18 February 2015

Who said what about whom

I have said a lot about this.

Other stories and comments and put downs that have been published are here.

The dual citizenship has been reported on channel 9, ABC, Pravda, Daily Mail,APN, Fairfax, Newscorp, Sky, Independent Australia, The Guardian, AIMN, and probably others. 

If I've missed any you know of please add them in the comments.

UK Home Office FOI request

Sunshine Coast Daily, my local

North Coast Voices

Ingrids blog, the best written on the subject.

http://tonymagrathea.blog.com/2014/06/21/tony-abbott/ My original blog that couldn't be opened, probably a denial of service attack or a mate doing a mate a favour attack.  That's why number one here is called the blog that wouldn't open.  The DOS went with an email hack that got rid of all emails at the end of August. Couldn't restore and after trying to contact google in the past gave up.  One thing google doesn't have is customer service.  All were neatly deleted and then the bin cleared.  Everything important is and always will be kept off line, in the cloud and out of my house.  Paranoid? Used to hack email accounts in Taxation to make sure staff knew the possibilities of this great new fangled thing called email. That was mid 80's.

The Australian Electoral Commission booklet for candidates.

The Guardian

Independent Australia

Independent Australia fudging

AIMN

The Drum

The Age

Bugwans blog spot, got a lot of good stuff, this is just one of many.

Daily Mail

Pravda

Independent Australia a gem

News.com

http://theaimn.com/why-did-tony-abbott-wait-until-he-was-almost-24-years-old-to-become-an-australian-citizen/

https://twitter.com/forthleft/status/528860601519337474/photo/1

http://imatthewsblog.com/2014/11/15/tony-abbott-is-beyond-appalling/

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/terri-butler-mp-asks-pm-abbott-to-prove-he-is-not-a-british-citizen,7299

The Human Headline,Mr Hinch on Sky

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbotts-dual-citizenship-stop-asking-questions--hes-the-pm,7382

Tuesday 17 February 2015

letter to Mr Ruddock

Apologies if you have already received this, the system said the email could not be sent, in bright red letters.

I am writing to ask Mr Ruddock to question the PM either in the party room or in parliament about his renunciation of British citizenship.

Ms Butler wrote on my behalf 4 weeks ago and still no reply.  http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/a-reply-from-hon-terri-butler-mp.html

I rang his office last Friday and got this http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/a-phone-call-to-pms-office.html reported in Independent Australia as https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbotts-dual-citizenship-stop-asking-questions--hes-the-pm,7382

It is very unusual that someone would try to hide their renunciation of British citizenship, especially when proclaiming he leads team Australia. 

You are well aware Mr Abbott was born in England to a British father, that's automatic British citizenship, got Australian citizenship in 1981 to get the Rhodes dollars and then joined parliament in 1994.

In October 2014 his Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet advised that the renunciation papers for his British citizenship do not exist.  That FOI/2014/159 is here -  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B42C_wWg31otWnE4Z0dtVEZpYzA/view

Mr Abbott has a family fairy story where he got Australian citizenship by descent.  Trouble is Mum renounced her Australian citizenship to get the ten pound pom boat trip (or was she an illegal boat person roflmao)

He applied for Australian citizenship in the normal way, which is now a secret file in the National Archives of Australia. Citizenship normally or by descent doesn't trump the British citizenship, he needs to fill in a form and pay a fee in London which hasn't happened.  That document does not exist so he is illegal

Will you please ask and more importantly let the Australian public know.

The right wing media are calling birther, but a birther was a Tea Party racist in the USA who couldn't believe Mr Obama had a legitimate birth certificate.  We know he was born British,we know he got Australian in 1981 whats missing is the renunciation.

I do hope you can help

thanks

tony magrathea





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Letter to Mr Joyce

Mr Joyce is the Minister for Agriculture in the Abbott government.

Mr Joyce has been in the press criticising animal rights activists who exposed the live baits used in greyhound training. He complains about them taking the law into their own hands.

I wrote to Mr Joyce at parliament house, I write there in case my emails go missing, it is unlikely the parliament house of Australia will get hacked.




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 Mr Joyce.
I see in the press you are complaining about animal rights activists taking the law into their own hands.  Perhaps you should look towards the head of the table at the next cabinet meeting and ask the same question. 


You are well aware Mr Abbott was born in England to a British father, that's automatic British citizenship, got Australian citizenship in 1981 to get the Rhodes dollars and then joined parliament in 1994.

In October 2014 his Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet advised that the renunciation papers for his British citizenship do not exist.  That FOI/2014/159 is here -  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B42C_wWg31otWnE4Z0dtVEZpYzA/view

This was confirmed in a phone call made last week, http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/a-phone-call-to-pms-office.html

So there you have it, he is a dual citizen which is illegal for parliament, and probably includes 8 fraud charges.  Will you ask him to quit?  Will you ask parliament to investigate?  Will you advise the police of his taking the law into his own hands and committing crimes?

Mr Abbott has a family fairy story where he got Australian citizenship by descent.  Trouble is Mum renounced her Australian citizenship to get the ten pound pom boat trip (or was she an illegal boat person roflmao)

He applied for Australian citizenship in the normal way, which is now a secret file in the National Archives of Australia. Citizenship normally or by descent doesn't trump the British citizenship, he needs to fill in a form and pay a fee in London which hasn't happened.  That document does not exist so he is illegal

Will you fix the head of the table before setting into everyone else?

Dont forget, the Sgt at Arms and the Black Rod need to know, the Australian Federal Police need to know and the Australian public need to know.  As a loyal Australian Member of Parliament I am sure you will fulfil your obligations to the people of Australia before your political loyalties.
You recently gained a great deal of money in salary and political clout from the man who is in the job illegally.  Some states have 25 years imprisonment for covering up crimes.

Monday 16 February 2015

Letter to Mr Nikolic

Mr Nikolic is a Tasmanian MP recently promoted after the old whip was sacked unceremoniously.

Mr Nikolic has been in the press saying he will wage war against dual nationals who break our laws.

I wrote to Mr Nikolic at parliament house, I write there in case my emails go missing, it is unlikely the parliament house of Australia will get hacked.




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 Mr Nikolioc.
I see in the press you are going after dual nationals, citizenship problems, perhaps you should look in your own back yard first?


You are well aware Mr Abbott was born in England to a British father, thats automatic British citizenship, got Australian citizenship in 1981 to get the Rhodes dollars and then joined parliament in 1994.

In October 2014 his Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet advised that the renunciation papers for his British citizenship do not exist.  That FOI/2014/159 is here -  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B42C_wWg31otWnE4Z0dtVEZpYzA/view

This was confirmed in a phone call made last week, http://tonymagrathea.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/a-phone-call-to-pms-office.html

So there you have it, he is a dual citizen which is illegal for parliament, and probably includes 8 fraud charges.  Will you ask him to quit?will you ask parliament to investigate?  will you advise the police of his crimes?

Mr Abbott has a family fairy story where he got Australian citizenship by descent.  Trouble is Mum renounced her Australian citizenship to get the ten pound pom boat trip (or was she an illegal boat person roflmao)

He applied for Australian citizenship in the normal way, which is now a secret file in the National Archives of Australia. Citizenship normally or by descent doesn't trump the British citizenship, he needs to fill in a form and pay a fee in London which hasn't happened.  That document does not exist so he is illegal

Will you fix your own backyard before setting into everyone else?

Dont forget, the Sgt at Arms and the Black Rod need to know, the Australian Federal Police need to know and the Australian public need to know.  As a loyal Australian Member of Parliament I am sure you will fulfill your obligations to the people of Australia before your political loyalties.
You recently gained a great deal of money in salary and political clout from the man who is in the job illegally.  Some states have 25 years imprisonment for covering up crimes.


Thursday 12 February 2015

A phone call to the PMs office

This is a link to a phone call made to the PMs office today.

I did tell them I would be recording the call,primarily for any senate inquiry and to make sure I got the  words right.

Basically Diana from the PMs office said The Hon Terri Butler's question and my questions about Mr Abbott's dual nationality are ludicrous.

" The request you are asking is ludicrous and we will not be answering"

I asked why they would not be answering

"because the Prime Minister is the Prime Minster and he is an Australian citizen and that is as far as this conversation is going"

"You have already had a response sir"

"You have been provided a response from the department."

The only response from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet was an FOI/2014/159 which wasn't directed to me.

I did ask who the response was from, again the Department, we discussed it with the department yesterday. Yesterdays phone call ended after about 45 minutes on hold and no discussion of anything except who might be responsible for answering mine and Ms Butlers requests.

I asked for a copy of the response from the department,  I said the only one I have seen is an FOI request that states the renunciation papers do not exist.  Diana said " and that's the response you have been provided with"

Again she said "this is a ludicrous question and I am not going to have this discussion with you. That's fine publish whatever you would like."

So there you have it.  I played the file in VLC player, haven't tried any others, but undoubtedly most will cope with it.


Your view is what counts, please copy the link to this and send it you your newspapers, MPs, anyone you think will listen.

 The response you have been provided with is this FOI . That's the one that says the renunciation papers do not exist.

The file wont play from the gdrive location,something to fix Google. You can download and play from your hardrive or try this  podcast Thanks to Ronald Conron for creating that link


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Tuesday 3 February 2015

Birther

A birther is a racist member of the Tea Party if the USA Republican party.

The Tea Party is an extremist right part of the political party full of religious and other nutters.

The birthers are the racists who don't believe President Obama has a legitimate USA birth certificate. He does.

I am named a birther because of what I am trying to do with Tony Abbott. I am not right wing and I am not a racist.  I will be asking my solicitor to have a look at suing the next journalist who calls me one
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The facts are Tony Abbott was born in England to a pommie father and got automatic British citizenship. He got Australian citizenship in 1981 and in October 2014 his own Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet said his renunciation of British citizenship paperwork does not exist.

If someone does their university degree as a creative writer or communications graduate or just plain journalism they can be forgiven for not being interested in facts, they would never have seen any in their university life and seeing them now might scare them a bit. But journalists are well trained and expected to be asking questions and the biggest question a journalist always has to ask is of themselves.  These professionals have gone straight for the racist Tea Party tag instead of asking why is this person doing this and is there any evidence in what he is presenting.  Ask yourselves why you went straight for the birther.

The worst is Tim Watts a labour MP who used to work for one of  the biggest legal firms in the world.  Lawyers know about facts,know how to spot them and know the questions to ask to find out more about the facts.  He called racist Tea Party in this protecting the Prime Minister from someone trying to find out if he  was in the job legally.  Why would you do that Mr Watts? And stranger is the new star in the Abbott ministry is Mr Frydenberg, he too worked for the same huge international law firm as Mr Watts.  Did they work there together, I don't know?  Was the birther article in The Age done for a former work mate?  Why would a labour politician go so far out on a limb to protect an adversary in parliament?  Surely as a lawyer Mr Watts knew about the various state Crimes Acts that look down on people who cover up crimes or decide for themselves that something isn't a crime.

  I wrote the piece below in September 2014, in October 2014 Jan Olsons bombshell exploded, the PM&C FOI/2014/15 showing the documents do not exist.
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Most people are wondering why I have been at Tony Abbott to tell the WHEN of his renunciation of his British citizenship. I am not a birther.  I do know when he was born, where he was born, who were his parents. I do know when he got his Australian citizenship and why.  The missing bit is the WHEN of his renunciation.
I was born in the UK in the same year as the Prime Minister, we both came to Australia as part of the ten pound pom programme.  In my case I was an addendum to a sheet of paper in my father’s passport, the sheet of paper showed mum was dad’s wife.  We were a little better than the Abbotts, we flew.
In 2013 around the time of the election I decided to have a look at the other ten pound pom and see his story.  And things didn’t quite add up.  There was talk of him getting citizenship by descent which seemed to wipe out his pommieness, there was talk of him never being British, of him having two Australian parents, or one Aussie one pommie.  So being one of the sort of people who needs to know why things aren’t quite sitting right I looked.
In February 2014 I was looking at his Australian citizenship papers in the National Archive of Australia when they went secret. Disappeared off the screen and out of the NAA online archive.  Strange and stranger.
I delved deeper and found out about the constitution section 44 which stops dual nationals from being parliamentarians.  So off to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet to see how I go about getting a look at his renunciation papers.  I found out these were called the form RN.  I had never applied for an FOI request so I asked the public servants in the department how you go about it.  Peta Credlin contacted me and said if I ever lodged an application for an FOI peek at the form RN she would refuse it.
Another WHY. Why would she say that? Why would the Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister suddenly become a clerk class 5 or 6 and do FOI requests?  Me being who I am waited until she was off in Washington with the boss before lodging the FOI application. I figured that being a liberal she couldn’t resist the chance of a holiday part paid by the public purse, I bet she would stay away for a holiday.  It seems she did and the public servant I was talking to at PM&C was “that close “ to releasing the results of my FOI request. And big red head came home.  Peta Credlin found my application and refused it.



Similar story in the British Home Office, FOI requests by law have to be done within 3 weeks over there.  Mine was held up for about a month as they went to and from the Foreign Office to decide if information could be released.  They refused to release information about his form RN.
So the form is still being kept hidden. WHY? This has gone beyond a nutter trying to cause trouble, which I never ever set out to do.  This is the Prime Minister of Australia hiding the only form that can prove he is in the job legally.
I wrote to my local MP Mal Brough and sent similar letters to George Brandis, a Queensland senator and also the primo law officer in the land, the Attorney General and to the boss of the house of representatives, the Speaker, Bronwyn Bishop.  I didn’t rant or call for mass sackings I asked the three of them to try and get the Prime Minister to sort things out before the G20. We have 19 huge and important governments and the rest of the world watching us in September and it would be rancidly bad for the country if our PM was under a cloud of suspicion for not being in the job legally.
If it turns out Mr Abbott has signed false statutory declarations to enter parliament then everything he has done becomes null and void.  His ministerial and prime ministerial decrees and decisions go out the window, the sale of uranium to India becomes null and void.  His health department decrees as minister for Health are at best now dubious.
He has to tell the people WHEN he renounced his British citizenship.  As an aside, from watching the man, from reading about him and reading about his belief of citizenship he seems to think citizenship by descent overturns his British citizenship, but according to the Home Office and the High Commission in Canberra that is just not so. He became a dual national when he filled out the application form to become Australian in 1981, coincidentally to get the dollars from Rhodes.  Rhodes Trust has since changed their rules to make sure no one ever does an Abbott on them again.
And the citizenship by descent, Mrs Abbott had to give up her Australian citizenship and become a pom so she could get on the ten pound pom boat trip.  Or she did what my mother did, came across as a sheet of paper in her husband’s passport and if she remained Australian she and her children can probably be considered illegal boat people.  Now that tickled my funny bone.  I am not in any way condoning anything to happen to mummy Abbott, shit happens.  




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